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they invited me

by the mole in

my sister invited me to her home last weekend.

to my surprise she was very nice.

if you all remember the rejection i recieved for questioning the org my sister was one of them but since my mom flew here to see us i guess my sister had some guilt not letting me and my children visit with her.

the mole

thanks everyone...if many of you kept up with my story you knew my mom fell victim to the 80's thinking the world was coming to end and sell everything you own crap.. my dad resisted and was df'd for it..my mom later d'fd also for questioning the df'd going on early 90's when the end didnt come..so many people suffered. the new recruits laugh when i tell them the story and dont believe it and many say its denied by the elders as a lie...i remeber college and highschool was so discouraged it was brutal to many who had dreams..those who had sports in mind where pounded on quickly by the hall.. i had to sneak off and do my karate behind my parents back until they found out and i was disassociated since i was baptised then...went to college when i turned 25 and finaly graduated but all that time wasted for foolish men and a foolish religion..i cant believe i returned and got baptised anyway in 94..what a mistake.. now looking back what a waste of time..i will let my kids live free without the yoke of burdensome place around the necks of those who join such a group of people....the mole

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My Story... please don't freak out on me...

by Big Shooter in

my story .

well, i am new here, and i have a very long story.

i don?t even know where to begin.

the mole

hi..i was raised all my life as a jw also..im third generation that finaly seen the lie and broke away just recently..i opened my self up and made some real friend not conditional ones...welcome to the fresh air...the mole

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they invited me

by the mole in

my sister invited me to her home last weekend.

to my surprise she was very nice.

if you all remember the rejection i recieved for questioning the org my sister was one of them but since my mom flew here to see us i guess my sister had some guilt not letting me and my children visit with her.

the mole

my sister invited me to her home last weekend. to my surprise she was very nice. if you all remember the rejection i recieved for questioning the org my sister was one of them but since my mom flew here to see us i guess my sister had some guilt not letting me and my children visit with her. my mom wanted to see me of course so i went. but the trick..not knowing that my sister invited to elders from her hall to be there also..i was so mad but i kept my tongue. those elders i knew from a long time back knew i could make a good arguement if i needed too. thank goodness i went to philosophy, i learned how to debate very well. i knew sooner or later they would take a shot at me and they did..my mom asked me when i was going to las vegas. i told her everything and that opened the door for them. Once they heard i returned to my karate practice and that my son completed his brown belt they dug in. the first elders stated how evil it was to practice and the other on how violent the training is. but my mom stood up for me. she said it was wrong of her to judge me a long time ago when i first started and that we need positve like martial arts..she mentioned she was doing tai chi, she went on how she learned to defend herself with the application of tai chi. my sister sat and congradulated my son for making second place in his tournement. i told my mom loud enough for them to hear on how sorry i was that i went to college so late in life and that my son would go right after high school..my mom said really loud she regrets listening the brothers with their foolish talk and nonsense in the 1980's. the elders both got up an left.my sister somewhat flustered now understood she had lost the battle of her faith...the mole

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Jehovahs Witnesses who shun family - please read this

by Sirona in

why do you shun your family members who have chosen to leave jehovah's witnesses (jws)?.

i am asking this question because i am personally so hurt by the attitude of my jw family toward me now that i'm not attending the meetings.

i've chosen another religious path.

the mole

hi...im going thru the same thing..i stepped down from my postion after so much wrong doing i seen but yet im considered the bad one for doing so..so many people feel the same as we who left the org.. my notes in silent lambs has created a sort of following about me and my family, this site included. i put down month by month the rejection and the lies done to me and my children by the so called lovers of truth. they are anything but truth. i never met so many phonies in all my life until i stepped into a kingdom hall. jesus would condem these people as a stiff neck people deserving of punishment not his love...good luck....****the mole***

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Looking for "new light" info late 1996 or 1997

by talesin in

does anyone know if there was "new light" presented in late 1996 or 1997 that would be reason for someone to leave the wts or step down as an elder?

i have a personal reason for wanting to know.. thanks.

talesin

the mole

new light? this is an excuse to make change to doctrine and nothing more..i remember when 1986 came it was new light that the worlds end didnt come but will come later..so when 1994 came when the oldest man to live died passed new light came again then the generation of 1914 more new light came..new light again came when nothing happend after 2000 passed..the org will always have new light as long as fools believe that something is always around the corner..

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he spoke not of the org but like friends

by the mole in

if many of you remember my cuz had decided to go back to the meetings but we had a beer this saturday and we had a chance to talk.

he told me when he get reinstated he will never go back again..i asked him why even bother.

..his answer was the same as before that the stigma placed on him by his family was to much.. his wife being recently baptised was forced on her because her family told her they would treat like a d.f person if she didnt make a choice..the girl is 28 but still under her mothers thumb...but my cuz said he rejected many of the teaching and is a jw in name only....so many are in name only but afraid to reject the lie..i told my cuz never call it the truth again but only a cult like group would name it such to mask the white washed grave where the hide...we talked for hours about it and he did say he had seen so much false and two faced people he couldnt believe why his dad and grandfather are so willing to toss him out like garbage if he didnt go back..i told him this was the last only way to keep under control because without it they had no power....his brother showed up and my cuz jeff also said the same that he disagreed with alot of stuff they did..they were born into it like i was but are afraid of rejection...i know of so many who think and feel as they do but say nothing because they have no where to go...if they had the chance without pain the org would lose at least 40% of their following in a year...the mole

the mole

if many of you remember my cuz had decided to go back to the meetings but we had a beer this saturday and we had a chance to talk. he told me when he get reinstated he will never go back again..i asked him why even bother. ..his answer was the same as before that the stigma placed on him by his family was to much.. his wife being recently baptised was forced on her because her family told her they would treat like a d.f person if she didnt make a choice..the girl is 28 but still under her mothers thumb...but my cuz said he rejected many of the teaching and is a jw in name only....so many are in name only but afraid to reject the lie..i told my cuz never call it the truth again but only a cult like group would name it such to mask the white washed grave where the hide...we talked for hours about it and he did say he had seen so much false and two faced people he couldnt believe why his dad and grandfather are so willing to toss him out like garbage if he didnt go back..i told him this was the last only way to keep under control because without it they had no power....his brother showed up and my cuz jeff also said the same that he disagreed with alot of stuff they did..they were born into it like i was but are afraid of rejection...i know of so many who think and feel as they do but say nothing because they have no where to go...if they had the chance without pain the org would lose at least 40% of their following in a year...the mole

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he couldnt cope with the pressure

by the mole in

if all of you remember when my cousin and i stood alone to fight the stupidity of my family's thinking it now came to an end.. he told me yesterday that his wife wants to reconcile their marriage and she is getting baptised in feb..her family pressured her to do this he said, but now that he decided to reconcile he started attending the meetings last week.

he also stated that he was so bitter that he wasnt invited to his sister wedding that he would get reinstated so it will never happen again.. his exact words were, " i hate the stigma that was placed on me.

i cant enjoy my family or do anything even with my wife.

the mole

if all of you remember when my cousin and i stood alone to fight the stupidity of my family's thinking it now came to an end.. he told me yesterday that his wife wants to reconcile their marriage and she is getting baptised in feb..her family pressured her to do this he said, but now that he decided to reconcile he started attending the meetings last week. he also stated that he was so bitter that he wasnt invited to his sister wedding that he would get reinstated so it will never happen again.. his exact words were, " i hate the stigma that was placed on me. i cant enjoy my family or do anything even with my wife.".....we had talked for over an hour and i made my case clear that i will never go back..the last thing he said was that i will call you sometime.......* the power we hand over and release to these men is what will always control us..no god or christ but men..once we submit to their control the grip they exert is very tight..i am lucky that i have no one to hold me back and suppress my mind.. my father has realized the bankrupt thinking the org placed upon men and my mother knows the heavy yoke she was forced to carry for years and agrees with me not to have my children also drown in ignorance..if we succomb to foolish thinking and hand over our free will then we invite a totality of suppression..they cannot come into your home and take it they make you believe that you must give it and once you relinquish this self willed power than all you have is mindless faith...a faith of death and destruction to mankind and a hope that you may survive it..***but what kind of faith should we really have? It should be one of hope that mankind gets better when god comes, not pray to have family, unbelievers, and those who made innocent human errors to die in armageddon..misdirected faith is harmful and i see my cousin trapped once again is something he has doubts in...the org and its false prophets has made a single victory but hopefully the poisen in his heart will infect them even more than i...the mole

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my aunt called me and she now wants advice..hahahahaha

by the mole in

first my sister called me to help her, now my aunt called me and wanted to know why she wont be able to upgrade her fon and that my fon company was mean to her....all the hours sitting at work listening to the lies and rantings of many disturbed people who think the wireless industry is perfect i had to bare the pain of listening to my aunt for an hour...while listening to her i reflected back when at one assembly she spurned me on my attitude toward the org..i gave my reasons why then she told me later that my invite to a get together was no longer any good..so i was unvited because others who are my family didnt feel comfortable with me showing up and threaten my aunt they wouldnt come if i was there...i have right to question what i see is wrong but in a nazi like org any questions are thought of as evil and rights dont mean anything only the rights of our constitution if it applies only to the orgs rights and freedoms only, then the org condems the very gov that protects them to go door to door..my aunt is but another ant in a drone society that has no mind any more....

the mole

first my sister called me to help her, now my aunt called me and wanted to know why she wont be able to upgrade her fon and that my fon company was mean to her....all the hours sitting at work listening to the lies and rantings of many disturbed people who think the wireless industry is perfect i had to bare the pain of listening to my aunt for an hour...while listening to her i reflected back when at one assembly she spurned me on my attitude toward the org..i gave my reasons why then she told me later that my invite to a get together was no longer any good..so i was unvited because others who are my family didnt feel comfortable with me showing up and threaten my aunt they wouldnt come if i was there...i have right to question what i see is wrong but in a nazi like org any questions are thought of as evil and rights dont mean anything only the rights of our constitution if it applies only to the orgs rights and freedoms only, then the org condems the very gov that protects them to go door to door..my aunt is but another ant in a drone society that has no mind any more....

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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!

by Globetrotter in

i got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.

we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.

this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.

the mole

sorry for your problem...the jw's really dont know the bible it the mags and books we learn at bookstudy..the bible is now more or less a reference text to be used on the side..from what you wrote she may be having thoughts to re-introduce herself to the org.. it has been very hard to break away from the org especialy when family is involved.. the constant brainwashing that you are no good if you reject the org because then you reject god, which you know is not true but that is the mind set...goodluck...***the mole***

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my sister asked for help..haahaha

by the mole in

hi everyone, im back....sorry for the long pause.

doing the ot at work...............here is my latest update on my sister and family rejecting me............ .

** remember when me and my sister argued why i dont want go to meetings?

the mole

hi everyone, im back....sorry for the long pause. doing the ot at work...............here is my latest update on my sister and family rejecting me...........

** remember when me and my sister argued why i dont want go to meetings? then she told me she doesnt want to speak to my anymore. Well, she called me this last weekend to help her with her phone bill. I work for a major fon company and she needed advice and if there are any of my coworkers that could help her. she failed to read her invoices and although the error was with my company months had past and her bill was very high, 700.00 worth of bill....being rejected for having an opinion on many issues i have with the org as created a situation that my family now avoids and whispers that im apostate. my sister was so distraut over her bill she even invited over for dinner and came to my home..out of loving kindness i looked into her issue but after 5 months no one can do anything but i asked her why didnt she call earlier? she stated she thought everything was fine and didnt realize the error untill several bills came for a total $784.56 and going to collections...i told her she should have called my to review the error and i would have advised my supervisor to review it but she didnt call me...my kids are first to tell me they think it was because of all the jw stuff and questions i posed to my sister and me stepping down from being an m.s.....what do you people think?